Syrian Wars 7
Seleucids against Ptolemies
The Battle of Panion Demo Game Army Lists
A scenario for an Ancient Battle game
This is the OOB for the game. As can be seen the
forces are more in tune with what we have in hand, rather than the actual forces...
but since the real OOB is not available we can give ourselves some leeway. It is
unlikely that the Machimoi phalanx was involved here, since one of the issues confronting
the Ptolemies after the victory at Raphia was how to deal with internal revolts, led by
the emboldened machimoi themselves. Also the hoplites are more or less
anachronistic, as by 200 BC most Greeks would have converted either to thureophoroi or
pike phalanxes. But who knows maybe some Achaeans and Aetolians continued to cling
to the old styles!!
What we can claim is the Seleucids had their new wonder weapon, the cataphracts. They also had a phalanx, and elephants. A unit of hetairoi guard cavalry, and Tarentine cavalry. I had not completed my Relic Tarentines as yet, so we left these out and used Paul's Thracians and he added Scythians for color and fun. I used the machimoi phalanx for kicks and some Hypaspists as guards, just to fill out the table with colorful units. Probably we needed more loose order infantry to outmaneuver the Seleucid phalanx as stated in the source... but we had a better game by just putting a max effort on the table...
4241 Points - Successor Empires - Ptolemaic
Army Kingdom Con 2011 |
Name |
# |
M |
WS |
BS |
S |
T |
W |
I |
A |
Ld |
Sv |
Cost |
Characters (2 models) |
||||||||||||
Strategos |
1 |
7 |
5 |
4 |
3 |
4 |
3 |
5 |
3 |
9 |
3+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Xyston; Heavy Armor; Half Barding;
Warhorse; Drilled; Stubborn; General |
||||||||||||
Warhorse |
0 |
8 |
3 |
- |
3 |
- |
- |
3 |
1 |
- |
- |
|
Army |
1 |
7 |
5 |
5 |
3 |
4 |
2 |
5 |
2 |
8 |
3+ |
|
Horse; Hand Weapon; Javelins; Light Armor;
Shield; Half Barding; Warhorse; Drilled; Stubborn; General |
||||||||||||
Warhorse |
0 |
8 |
3 |
- |
3 |
- |
- |
3 |
1 |
- |
- |
|
Cavalry (28 models) |
||||||||||||
Agema Cavalry |
10 |
8 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
8 |
4+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon; Xyston;
Heavy Armor; Stubborn; Wedge |
||||||||||||
Elite Light Cavalry |
9 |
8 |
3 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
8 |
4+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon; Throwing
Spear; Javelins; Light Armor; Shield; Light Cavalry |
||||||||||||
Kleruch Cavalry |
9 |
7 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
3+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon;
Thrusting Spear; Heavy Armor; Shield; Wedge |
||||||||||||
Phalanx (132 models) |
||||||||||||
Agema Hypaspist |
20 |
4 |
4 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
8 |
4+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Light Armour;
Thrusting Spear; Javelins; Large Shield |
||||||||||||
Mercenary Phalanx |
28 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
5+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Light Armour; Hand
Weapon; Pike; Shield |
||||||||||||
Kleruch Phalanx |
28 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
6 |
5+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Light Armour; Hand
Weapon; Pike; Shield |
||||||||||||
Machimoi Phalanx |
40 |
4 |
- |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
6 |
5+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon; Pike;
Light Armor; Shield Baptism
of Fire |
||||||||||||
Border Guards |
16 |
5 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
6 |
6+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon;
Thrusting Spear; Javelins; Shield; Light Infantry |
||||||||||||
Aetolian mercenaries (46 models) |
||||||||||||
Aetolian Cavalry |
10 |
8 |
4 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
8 |
5+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon; Throwing
Spear; Javelins; Shield; Light Cavalry; Feigned Flight |
||||||||||||
Citizen Hoplites |
24 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
7 |
4+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Light Armour; Hand
Weapon; Thrusting Spear; Large Shield; Phalanx |
||||||||||||
Aetolian Peltasts |
12 |
5 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
5 |
6+ |
|
Leader; Hand Weapon; Javelins; Shield; Light
Infantry; Feigned Flight |
||||||||||||
Elephants (2 models) |
||||||||||||
X2 African
Elephant |
1 |
6 |
4 |
- |
6 |
5 |
5 |
3 |
4 |
4 |
- |
|
Crew (2); Howdah; Mahout (fear Indian
elephants) |
||||||||||||
Crew |
2 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
3+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Pike; Bow; Javelins; Light Armor;
Shield |
||||||||||||
Mahout |
1 |
4 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
- |
7 |
6+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Light Armor |
||||||||||||
Mercenaries (93 models) |
||||||||||||
Galatian Noble Cavalry |
8 |
8 |
4 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
6 |
4+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Mixed Weapons; Light
Armor; Shield; Warband |
||||||||||||
Arab Cavalry |
12 |
8 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
6 |
5+ |
|
Leader; Mixed Weapons; Throwing Spear; Shield;
Warband |
||||||||||||
Thorakitai |
12 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
5+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon;
Thrusting Spear; Javelins; Light Armor; Shield; Trained Spearmen |
||||||||||||
Thureophoroi |
16 |
5 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
6+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon;
Thrusting Spear; Javelins; Shield; Trained Spearmen |
||||||||||||
Expert Slingers |
9 |
5 |
2 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
5 |
- |
|
Hand Weapon; Sling; Buckler; Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Cretan Archers |
8 |
5 |
3 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
6+ |
|
Leader; Hand Weapon; Composite Bow; Shield;
Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Arab Infantry
|
8 |
5 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
5 |
- |
|
Hand Weapon; Composite Bow; Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Neo-Cretans |
10 |
5 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
6 |
- |
|
Hand Weapon; Javelins; Buckler; Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Neo-Agrianians |
10 |
5 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
6+ |
|
Leader; Hand Weapon; Javelins; Shield;
Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Total Cost: |
4241 |
Special Rules:
Massed Phalanx: If a phalanx is involved then
the phalanx with the deepest unit adds an extra D6 to any ties roll off.
Trained Spearmen: May fight in
two ranks when they charge, as if they are phalanx, applies to close order and open order
troops (but only in clear terrain).
Baptism of Fire: Roll a D6 the first time a
unit of Machimoi either charges or is charged. (-1 if charged
to the flank or rear) 1-3: The unit is
WS 2, 4-6: The unit
is WS 3
Regal Impact: Roll a D6 at the beginning
of the game: |
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4240 Points - Successor Empires - Seleucids -
Kingdom Con 2011 |
Name |
# |
M |
WS |
BS |
S |
T |
W |
I |
A |
Ld |
Sv |
Cost |
Characters (2 models) |
||||||||||||
Successor King |
1 |
7 |
5 |
5 |
3 |
4 |
3 |
6 |
2 |
9 |
3+ |
|
Impact Modifier: +1 to Regal Impact; Hand
Weapon; Xyston; Heavy Armor; Half Barding; Warhorse; Drilled; Stubborn; Army General |
||||||||||||
Warhorse |
0 |
8 |
3 |
- |
3 |
- |
- |
3 |
1 |
- |
- |
|
Army |
1 |
3 |
5 |
5 |
3 |
4 |
2 |
5 |
2 |
8 |
4+ |
|
Horse; Hand Weapon; Heavy
Armor; Half Barding; Drilled; Stubborn; Army |
||||||||||||
Cavalry (48 models) |
||||||||||||
Agema Cataphracts |
12 |
6 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
8 |
2+ |
|
Barding; Cataphract Armour;
Cataphracts; Close Order; Leader;
Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon; Kontos |
||||||||||||
Cataphracts |
12 |
6 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
2+ |
|
Barding; Cataphract Armour;
Cataphracts; Close Order; Leader;
Standard; Musician; Hand Weapon; Kontos |
||||||||||||
Companions |
12 |
7 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
8 |
3+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician;
Hand Weapon; Xyston; Heavy Armor; Half Barding; Stubborn; Wedge |
||||||||||||
Seleucid Cavalry |
12 |
8 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
4+ |
|
Shield; Hand Weapon;
Thrusting Spear; Light Armor Leader; Standard; Musician; |
||||||||||||
Phalanx (136 models) |
||||||||||||
Guard Phalanx |
24 |
4 |
4 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
4 |
1 |
8 |
5+ |
|
Light Armour; Shield; Pike;
Drilled; Stubborn; Macedonian Phalanx; Leader; Standard; Musician |
||||||||||||
Silver Shields |
28 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
5+ |
|
Light Armour; Shield; Pike;
Macedonian Phalanx; Leader; Standard; Musician |
||||||||||||
Katoikoi Phalanx |
28 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
6 |
5+ |
|
Light Armour; Shield; Pike;
Macedonian Phalanx; Leader; Standard; Musician |
||||||||||||
Katoikoi Phalanx |
28 |
4 |
3 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
6 |
5+ |
|
Light Armour; Shield; Pike;
Macedonian Phalanx; Leader; Standard; Musician |
||||||||||||
Elephant Escorts |
8 |
5 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
6+ |
|
Elephant Escort; Leader;
Hand Weapon; Javelins; Shield; Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Euzonoi Javelins |
10 |
5 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
5 |
6+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Javelins;
Buckler; Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Euzonoi Persian |
10 |
5 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
5 |
6+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Javelins;
Buckler; Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Unit (2 models) |
||||||||||||
X2 Indian Elephant |
1 |
5 |
4 |
- |
7 |
6 |
6 |
3 |
4 |
4 |
3+/6+ |
|
Howdah; Barding |
||||||||||||
Crew |
3 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
3+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Pike, Composite
Bow; Javelins; Light Armor; Shield |
||||||||||||
Mahout |
1 |
4 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
- |
7 |
6+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Light Armor |
||||||||||||
Unit (92 models) |
||||||||||||
Thorakitai |
18 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
5+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician;
Hand Weapon; Thrusting Spear; Light Armor; Shield; Trained Spearmen |
||||||||||||
Thureophoroi |
18 |
5 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
6+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician;
Hand Weapon; Thrusting Spear; Javelins; Shield; Trained Spearmen |
||||||||||||
Thracian Peltasts |
18 |
5 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
5+ |
|
Leader; Standard; Musician;
Hand Weapon; Rhomphaia; Javelins; Shield; Light Infantry |
||||||||||||
Neo-Cretans |
12 |
5 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
6 |
6+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Composite Bow;
Javelins; Buckler; Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Iranian Levy Slingers |
10 |
5 |
2 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
3 |
5+ |
|
Dagger; Sling; Shield;
Levies; Open Order |
||||||||||||
Trallian Slingers |
8 |
5 |
2 |
3 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
2 |
1 |
5 |
6+ |
|
Dagger; Sling; Buckler;
Skirmishers |
||||||||||||
Horse Archers |
8 |
8 |
2 |
4 |
3 |
3 |
1 |
3 |
1 |
7 |
6+ |
|
Hand Weapon; Composite Bow;
Skirmishers; Parthian Shot; Feigned Flight |
||||||||||||
Total Cost: |
4240.0 |
Special Rules:
Massed Phalanx: If a phalanx is involved then the phalanx with
the deepest unit adds an extra D6 to any ties roll off.
Trained Spearmen: May fight in
two ranks when they charge, as if they are phalanx, applies to close order and open order
troops (but only in clear terrain).
Regal Impact: Roll a D6 at the beginning of the game: |
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